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joehornback 01-02-2013 12:22 AM

Amp?
 
Can anyone tell me if you can put an amp on the head unit of the USA version 2013 Spark? I'd like to beef up the sound system a bit. And if so, how to access the dash?

SparkFan 01-02-2013 11:24 AM

Typically OEM don't have RCA outputs which would be needed for an AMP. I doubt the Spark has it, but will try to find out, unless you want to take a chance and check it yourself by pulling out the headunit.

joehornback 01-03-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SparkFan (Post 1209)
Typically OEM don't have RCA outputs which would be needed for an AMP. I doubt the Spark has it, but will try to find out, unless you want to take a chance and check it yourself by pulling out the headunit.

That's just it, not sure how to pull it out without breaking something. I don't think it possible to change the head unit on this car since it controls so much of the car's settings...

chrisvy 01-03-2013 12:55 PM

Might just be too complicated. You could consult with a professional car audio shop to get advice but I don't think it would be wise because of the reasons you listed. The unit controls many things on the car that an aftermarket one wouldn't

/\/\ATIZ 01-03-2013 03:10 PM

Might not be the greatest idea but I have seen some people do it. They install a deck in a gap under all the center controls if the car has that gap, which the spark does.

You would have to run a power source, create a bracket, and run a wire to each speaker OR splice into the wiring harness.

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-1280x782.jpg

SparkMan99 01-03-2013 04:25 PM

Not a bad idea because it seems like that the only spot where you have to work with. Im sure they could fab up a bezel or cover to fill up that hole.

Mrmarky 01-14-2013 05:33 PM

I plan on upgrading all the speakers adding tweeters. And adding two small pre-amped subs. I'll take pics and post after I get the car.

joehornback 01-14-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrmarky (Post 1296)
I plan on upgrading all the speakers adding tweeters. And adding two small pre-amped subs. I'll take pics and post after I get the car.

I'd be interested in how you installed these.

All_Spark 01-17-2013 11:45 AM

Just install another deck, i dont think the oem player gives you much options to add amps.




joehornback 01-21-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by All_Spark (Post 1310)
Just install another deck, i dont think the oem player gives you much options to add amps.

You cannot remove the factory head unit because it controls so many of the car's settings.

sparked 01-22-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by joehornback (Post 1322)
You cannot remove the factory head unit because it controls so many of the car's settings.

yup chevrolet really screwed people their. but it can still be done, just not as easy, hopefully metra has something in the works

All_Spark 01-28-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sparked (Post 1325)
yup chevrolet really screwed people their. but it can still be done, just not as easy, hopefully metra has something in the works

Whats metra?




Elementalist 04-11-2013 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by All_Spark (Post 1340)
Whats metra?

Metra is a manufacturer of trim kits that facilitate the installation of aftermarket head units.

Metra Online | Welcome to Metra Auto Parts Online Warehouse

The Spark's head unit is very shallow and no kit exists to mount an after market head unit in place of the factory head unit. This is likely to be increasingly the case as vehicles become more integrated with infotainment systems.

Elementalist 04-11-2013 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkFan (Post 1209)
Typically OEM don't have RCA outputs which would be needed for an AMP. I doubt the Spark has it, but will try to find out, unless you want to take a chance and check it yourself by pulling out the headunit.


You don't necessarily need RCA Outs for an amp. (Though it does make things simplier.) You need an attenuator to step down the headunits native output to the speak to the input range of your amplifier. There are also some kits available that are designed to beef up factory sound systems.

Crutchfield stocks a few parts that could help.

Sony XDP-MU110 Digital Link Sound System

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_158XDPM110/Sony-XDP-MU110-Digital-Link-Sound-System.html#details-tab

This takes the raw output that would normally drive your speakers and redrives them from its 45wx4 channel amp. It also allows the connection of a monoblock and a subwoofer. Assuming you could find a place to cram it.

Sony XDP-PK1000 Digital Link Sound System
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_158XDPPK1K/Sony-XDP-PK1000-Digital-Link-Sound-System.html

This is similar, but it includes a monoblock and a sub.

Helix P-DSP
Helix P-DSP Programmable 8-channel digital signal processor at Crutchfield.com

This is a more hard core solution that will accept speaker level input. and convert it to line level output on up to 8 channels. This could be coupled with one or more amps to create a custom sound solution. I am not nearly sound system savvy enough to suggest how this would be best used.







TheMission 04-11-2013 01:14 PM

Many AMPs have high level inputs as well as RCAs, so you'd just have to tap/disconnect the current wires going to the stock speakers and send them to the AMP, then from the amp to the new speaker setup. Many individuals with OEM stereos run this setup.

It's not ideal, but it works.

chevysub 04-11-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMission (Post 1703)
Many AMPs have high level inputs as well as RCAs, so you'd just have to tap/disconnect the current wires going to the stock speakers and send them to the AMP, then from the amp to the new speaker setup. Many individuals with OEM stereos run this setup.

It's not ideal, but it works.

It's going to suck having to splice into the wires on a brand new car but it's probably the best way to go about this.

Would love to see one already done to a new Spark, but I doubt anyone has gone that far with their brand new Spark.

lovgun7 05-22-2013 01:08 PM

i think everyone is in agreement that the factory speakers on the spark will go down in history as the most crappy speakers to roll off the assembly line.

this is what im going to do

phase 1 DONE

Switched out the factory front speakers and installed 2 Kicker 4'

Switched out the factory rear speaker and installed 2 kicker 4 x 6s

its a massive improvement.

to do this take a small a thin flat head screwdriver to pop the front speaker grills open. I had a hard time with this but the easier way is to fit the driver and then move it along the circle instead of pushing down on the screw which could lead to the grill break.

the rear speakers are easy to get to. the tricky part is getting the screws on... factory speakers are screwed on by 4 screws... my kickers i managed to fit 3 screws.

Note: the factory speakers come with the new connectors. You can find 4's and 4 x 6s speakers with connectors but my kickers didn't have it.

in this case there are 3 options

1. buy speakers that come with the correct connection (easy install)
2. buy a harness for your 4 speakers (easy install buy pricey)
3. break the plastic housing and wire your speakers to the connectors.
4. splice wires.

i choose option 3.

phase 2

Infinity makes an awesome / small 10' sub woofer enclosed with an amp called the Bass link. I'll be buying that from amazon. Ive spoken with my stereo dude and he said putting a sub in with the factory stereo is not a problem.

i saw somewhere that another 2 speakers fit in the back seat doors so i might add another 2 kickers OR might add some cheap tweeters.

joehornback 05-22-2013 11:34 PM

I have upgraded to 6x9 kickers in the rear (made a deck for them to sit on accross the back) and still the sound quality is very substandard. I think the head unit just doesn't put out the juice (or mix) it needs to.

lovgun7 05-23-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by joehornback (Post 1937)
I have upgraded to 6x9 kickers in the rear (made a deck for them to sit on accross the back) and still the sound quality is very substandard. I think the head unit just doesn't put out the juice (or mix) it needs to.

hmm .. my 4 kicker speakers are kicking ass (no pun inteded).

could be the wire your using.

did you switch out the 4's in the front ??? if not i would do that next.

Elementalist 05-29-2013 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joehornback (Post 1322)
You cannot remove the factory head unit because it controls so many of the car's settings.

Metra just released a full kit.

Metra Online


There is an accessory that retains all stock functions.

lovgun7 06-01-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elementalist (Post 1970)
Metra just released a full kit.

Metra Online

Metra Chevy Spark 2013 & up kit 95 / 99-3309B - YouTube

There is an accessory that retains all stock functions.

how much is it from metra ?

chrisvy 06-05-2013 10:06 AM

The dash kits are usually under $20

Amped 06-11-2013 01:27 PM

Someone call my name? :D

SRTViperDude 09-04-2013 08:48 PM

Another option would be to go with a ReQ which is a speaker level to line level converter but also accounts for the equalization curve of the factory HU. That way you can keep the OnStar, steering wheel controls, hands free calling, and still have an external amp and speakers. It also allows you to connect a powered sub if necessary.

lordperryman 05-15-2015 01:25 AM

I put Focal 100 CA1's in the front speaker areas and I put a 10" Rockford Fosgate pre-amped sub in the back. I dont even worry about the back speakers because honestly you only need 2 really good quality speakers in the front and a sub system in the back. Back speakers get drowned out by the sub anyways so it's a waste to put anything besides subs/amps back there.

Skrillard423 04-01-2018 10:38 AM

probably a little late now, but i just got two line-level adapters and im going to plug the wires into the factory harness. that way ill have RCA output on the factory head unit.


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