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Which would you rather own?

Chevy Spark EV priced at $27,495; will lease for $199/month

Chevy Spark EV lease highlights electric-car price cuts - latimes.com

Autoblog Green said:
The Nissan Leaf, the Fiat 500e and now the 2014 Chevy Spark EV 1LT. Three different electric hatchbacks that can all be had for the same low lease price: $199 per month. The Spark even has the same appealing $999 down payment as the Fiat (the Leaf's is $1,999) and both require 36-month leases, so the cost of these two city runabouts is identical, at least at the base level. The one potential hiccup: Chevy says it's a "low mileage lease," and you'll pay 25 cents a mile for each mile over 12,000 per year. Considering these are urban-minded vehicles with limited ranges, however, that doesn't seem like as pressing an issue.

If you want to buy a Spark EV outright, General Motors will ask you for $27,495, a figure that will drop to $19,995 for anyone who qualifies for the full $7,500 federal tax credit. That's a good deal for EVs, but the gas-powered Spark starts at just $12,185. Before Fiat announced its low lease deal last month, all GM would say is that the Spark EV would cost somewhere "under $25,000 with tax incentives." Well under, apparently.

The Spark EV goes on sale in California and Oregon in the middle of June. The car is rated at 119 MPGe combined and has a range of 82 miles. When that's not enough, DC quick charging with the SAE combo charger will refill the battery to 80 percent in about 20 minutes (when such DC stations stations become available, since the Spark is not compatible with the already-available CHAdeMO stations).
Chevrolet Spark EV

EPA Range: 82 miles

Down payment: $999
12,000 miles per year
$199 per month
36 months







Fiat 500e

EPA range: 87 miles

Down payment: $999
15,000 miles per year
$199 per month
36 months







Nissan Leaf

EPA range: 75 miles

Down payment: $1999
12,000 miles per year
$199 per month
36 months





 

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Both the Nissan Leaf and the Fiat 500e are imported from foreign companies that take away money from the American people to support their own countries. Although the Spark is assembled in Sough Korea, the plant is a GM property, with the electric motor, transmission, controls, and battery manufactured in the U.S., so the electrical components are 100% American.I know that after the Spark EV takes a foothold in America, GM will start up a new assembly plant to build them here, and prevent shipping parts to South Korea.
 

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As of today, it's the Spark EV for me. Although, I have not purchased yet and am still deciding. Of course, on a site named "sparktalk" I expect the SparkEV to run away on this poll.

Regarding supporting the US. It's interesting how the Spark EV is sold by an American company and assembled in S. Korea and the Nissan Leaf is a Japanese car assembled in the U.S.A. So they both partly support American jobs in their own way.
 

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I would not buy a leaf. It is so ugly..

The debate is between the Fiat or the Chevrolet.
 

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I did a lot of research on not only the Spark, Fiat and Leaf but also on the Volt and Fit.

I leased a Spark yesterday.

Availability of the car was the primary motivator but here are some others:


  • Spark powertrain is based on technology developed for the Volt. GM has demonstrated a commitment to the technology which is relatively mature. It is highly likely that in 3 years when a decision has to be made to keep the car or move on, we will know the depth of Fiat, Nissan and Honda's commitments to stay in the EV space. Nissan and Ford will have the largest critical mass of customers which will allow them to spread the EV development costs over more units which should drive future cost down and also maintain a supply and maintenance program to ensure the cars do not become orphans. No one knows the depth of Fiat and Honda's commitments to EV. The heart of the Spark, the motor, is US designed and manufactured as is the battery. And the driver interface is derived from the Volt's.
  • The Leaf's battery is not as well managed for thermal effects as the Spark or Fiat. So the durability of the battery is suspect.
  • The performance of the Spark speaks for itself.
  • The Spark's cabin and utility fall in between the Leaf/Honda and the Fiat. The Fiat to me is much too small.
  • The Spark's onboard charger should have been equivalent to the Fiat at 6.6kw. However, I can live with the existing 3.3kw.
 

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Sadly for those of us not living in CA, none of the above is the only option. I would lease a Spark EV right now if I could get Chevy to agree. I do wish it was available in Jalapeno though.
Give me a 2LT in Jalapeno with DC combo charger, and I'm happy as a pepper in the sun!! I would take a white one if Chevy would "allow " me to import it form CA.
 
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